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Sacred Steve
@Sacred Steve
11/01/08 00:00:06
116 posts

Raw chocolate-- what is it really?


Posted in: Make Mine Raw ... (Read-Only)

Forgot to answer your other question! The beans we have are being farmed in a very special unique fashion to ensure that fermentation temperatures do not exceed what is considered raw. The beans are only lightly fermented!Also, the reason that I can guarantee that Sacred Chocolate never exceeds 114 degrees F is because I designed and built the machines that grinds the cacao beans! yay!Hearts!Sacred Steve
Sacred Steve
@Sacred Steve
10/31/08 23:54:46
116 posts

Raw chocolate-- what is it really?


Posted in: Make Mine Raw ... (Read-Only)


Dear Samantha, I don't have a lot of confidence in that report only because they are reporting such a huge swing in the min and max values (202 to over 1000) for a 100% cacao bar (the 1000 level was probably gotten from a bar where the beans were not roasted and the 202 value was probably from a bar where the beans were minimally roasted; The more you roast, the more you blow out the antioxidants--this is a repeatable experimental fact.) Even the cocoa (cacao) powder which is devoid of about 80% of the cocoa (cacao) butter is reported to be in the 600 range on average with a much smaller range in min and max values probably because they do much of the pressing in the industry before the beans are roasted. On a per weight basis since it is much more concentrated, it should be much higher than the bar. 

Sacred Steve
@Sacred Steve
10/31/08 23:24:27
116 posts

Raw chocolate-- what is it really?


Posted in: Make Mine Raw ... (Read-Only)

I am not an organic chemist. What I do know is that that is the units by which they are measuring the antioxidants present in our Lab report. People in the health industry loosely use the term ORAC score to refer to any method used to measure antioxidant levels. This should shed some light on the matter! http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/50/5/952
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
10/31/08 19:22:53
1,692 posts

Raw chocolate-- what is it really?


Posted in: Make Mine Raw ... (Read-Only)

Steve:Sorry if it seems like I am belaboring the point, but while some of us may know what "micromole of trolox equivalents per gram" means, other members of TheChocolateLife probably do not.:: Clay
Sacred Steve
@Sacred Steve
10/31/08 17:27:47
116 posts

Raw chocolate-- what is it really?


Posted in: Make Mine Raw ... (Read-Only)


Thanks Clay for that added clarification!

The unit notation umoleTE/g means micromole of trolox equivalents per gram. That is a mistake actually!

Thanks for pointing that out! The bean we use is officially called "Arriba Nacional Aromica". It is sourced from Ecuador.

Hearts!!
Sacred Steve

Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
10/31/08 17:16:19
1,692 posts

Raw chocolate-- what is it really?


Posted in: Make Mine Raw ... (Read-Only)


In the article you reference on agave nectar, you start out talking about maple sugar and mention that you use "Criollo Aromica Ecuadorian" beans to make your chocolate. I have never heard of this kind of bean. Can you let us know more?

Also, could you please explain for everyone what "600 umoleTE/g" means, not just spell out the technical terms.

ORAC stands for Oxygen Radical Absorption Capacity but people may not know what that means.

Thanks,
:: Clay


updated by @Clay Gordon: 07/01/17 10:34:50
Sacred Steve
@Sacred Steve
10/31/08 16:11:31
116 posts

Raw chocolate-- what is it really?


Posted in: Make Mine Raw ... (Read-Only)

Hi Sarah,Thanks for your question! I am the maker of Sacred Chocolate http://www.SacredChocolate.com , which is considered in the "RAW" world to be the gold standard by which all raw chocolate is compared!Technically, what makes Raw Chocolate RAW is the following:1) Beans are never roasted and always stored and processed at temperatures below about 115 degrees F.2) All or most of the other ingredients used also follow the rule in 1).Most sweeteners are not considered truly raw. It is VERY difficult to use a really raw sweetener to make traditional chocolate. Look at my research on "raw" agave nectar here: http://www.naturaw.com/sacred-chocolate/newsletter-2.html Sacred Chocolate makes 19 flavors and only our 100% cacao bar is technically truly 100% raw, since we use things like organic maple sugar, essential oils, and vanilla beans, which are all not technically raw (Vanilla Bean has to be "cured" at non-raw temperatures to bring out any vanilla flavor; some flavors such as coffee and caramel can only be obtained by the cooking process). What I can guarantee you though is that the cacao itself in Sacred Chocolate never exceeds temperatures above 114 degrees F ! Why do we do this?1) Raw cacao has an antioxidant rating (ORAC SCORE) of 600 umoleTE/g !!!! Acai is about 150 as a comparison !!!! Roasting or processing at high temperature destroys about 80 to 90% of those antioxidants!2) Roasting or Processing at high temperature also can create trans fatty acids, of which Sacred Chocolate has none.3) Check out the lab report done on our Ginger Flavor. The Ginger is only 57% cacao content, so if 100% cacao is at 600, then the Ginger should show up at 342 if we have done our job right! Check out this report (Scroll to the bottom to see the TOTAL ORAC score): http://www.naturaw.com/sacred-chocolate/Sacred_Chocolate_Nutritional_Analysis_GINGER.pdf You will see that it is listed at 343 !FYI, Sacred Chocolate is Certified Organic, Vegan, Kosher, and Halal, and is sold above fair trade standards. (For the most part the cane sugar industry used BONE CHAR as a processing/filtering agent!)Hope that clarifies things...Hearts!!Sacred Steve
Sarah Hart
@Sarah Hart
10/31/08 08:30:18
63 posts

Raw chocolate-- what is it really?


Posted in: Make Mine Raw ... (Read-Only)

So, I have noticed a recent upsurge in "raw" chocolate products. A couple I have tried have been tasty. But I don't understand what makes raw chocolate raw. Are the beans just not roasted? And if not what is done with them. Why would leaving chocolate "raw" be advantageous? Is it healthier and why? Inquiring minds want to know....
updated by @Sarah Hart: 12/13/24 12:16:49
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
11/03/08 06:26:02
1,692 posts

Wholesale Fair Trade Organic chocolate


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Bruce, you make some very good points here. One thing that most people don't know about "Fair" Trade is that they don't certify farmers, they only certify co-ops. I think the reasons are financial - it's not cost-effective for them to work farm-by-farm and individual farmers don't generate enough income from their cacao to pay the certification fees. Organic certification is also beyond the reach of most individual cacao farmers.There are some instances where a business corporation (as opposed to a co-operative corporation) owns enough farms to be able to afford to pay for certification and in this case it's possible for a single plantation, if large enough, to be certified or to attain multiple certifications. In which case it is up to the owners to decide if the cost of certifications is balanced by the increase in markets they serve not the increase in the price they can charge. Bruce is right that farmers can earn well more than the minimums offered by "Fair" Trade and other certifications simply by focusing on quality and that all of the truly good cacao in the world commands substantial premiums over the price of commodity cacao.I have long contented that "Fair" Trade can, in some situations, exert negative (downward) pricing pressure, creating a de-facto ceiling for the price of cacao. Several people have argued that the Fair Trade price sets a de-facto floor, but I believe that it depends on the motivations and intentions of the buyer/broker. Very large companies will tend to look at it as a ceiling, smaller and artisan companies who are interested in the welfare of the farmers and who prefer to buy interesting and unusual beans tend to see it as a floor.I know that when I was with Shawn Askinosie on his first bean-buying trips we used the Fair Trade pricing model as the starting point for negotiations. On top of that Shawn added profit sharing as well as paying for options contracts on future crops and investing in necessary improvements to infrastructure (e.g., paying to improve fermentation and facilities) in advance of the harvest. In hte latter case, even though Shawn was not buying 100% of their crop the farmers were able to improve the quality of everything they harvested which meant that they could charge more for all of their beans.
Bruce Toy (Coppeneur)
@Bruce Toy (Coppeneur)
11/02/08 20:08:47
15 posts

Wholesale Fair Trade Organic chocolate


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Coppeneur creates couverture from a single organic plantation in Ecuador and a single organic plantation in Madagascar. Their couverture is not "Fair Trade". Correct me if I'm wrong but it's my understanding that "Fair Trade" chocolate and coffee must be sourced from a farmers co-op. In other words chocolate or coffee from a single plantation can never be labeled as fair trade.Fair trade chocolate or coffee can sometimes be a marketing ploy to sell sub-standard beans. Certain consumers will only purchase fair trade chocolate or coffee because it makes them feel good, not because it tastes good.Outstanding cocoa and coffee beans are nearly always sold at prices above fair trade.
Sarah Thieben
@Sarah Thieben
10/31/08 07:42:21
1 posts

Wholesale Fair Trade Organic chocolate


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Can somebody please help me? I run a small gourmet toffee business in Dayton OH. I have 4 different flavors of toffee and currently use belgian milk, dark (72%) and bittersweet (65%) chocolates which are available in 1lb 1oz bars. I am very interested in switching to a high quality fair trade organic chocolate. I have tried Dagoba but wasn't very impressed.I am a chocolate novice--I can appreciate really good chocolate more than the average Joe but get a little intimidated when I start reading this site, although I definitely appreciate the wealth of information. I am especially interested in finding a chocolatier who might be interested in working with me to create chocolate specifically for the toffee.Can anyone point me in the right direction, give me some leads, give me your opinions on the fair trade organic chocolate that's out there, or in any other way help me out?Thank you very much and I look forward to hearing back.
updated by @Sarah Thieben: 04/19/15 03:50:54
John DePaula
@John DePaula
01/22/09 11:23:00
45 posts

Guitar


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

A search for "wire" at the Grainger site turns up the following: Grainger wire search (3 pages of results) .If anyone has more info about wire thickness, we could go from there.
Jason Andelman
@Jason Andelman
01/21/09 19:16:30
4 posts

Guitar


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

No, there is no difference in cutting ganache vs. pate de fruit vs. caramel, they all cut very clean. However, our caramels are pretty soft, so it's never really an issue. We also use the guitar to cut praline and other bon-bons that contain chopped nuts and we will occasionally break a string, but not often.About 80% of our products are cut on the guitar, as we mostly do enrobed pieces v. molded. It really is an indispensible tool, I couldn't function w/o it....
Kerry
@Kerry
01/21/09 19:00:35
288 posts

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Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I'm impressed that you can cut caramel without breaking wires - is there any difference with the larger gauge wire cutting ganches or Pates de Fruit?
Jason Andelman
@Jason Andelman
01/21/09 18:52:08
4 posts

Guitar


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Yup, that's it.
Elaine Hsieh
@Elaine Hsieh
01/21/09 16:46:38
25 posts

Guitar


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I searched for Grainger online - and found a site that carries s/s wire but it's for a musical instrument. Is that the same wire?
Jason Andelman
@Jason Andelman
01/21/09 15:37:42
4 posts

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Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Can't remember (and i threw away the box it came in). Basically, I took in a piece of the wire that came with the guitar and they measured the gauge at the Grainger store. I then bumped it up a bit for a slightly thicker wire. It's nice because we can use the guitar to cut caramels without breaking any strings.
Kerry
@Kerry
01/21/09 15:18:41
288 posts

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Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Jason,What gauge wire did you buy?
Jason Andelman
@Jason Andelman
01/21/09 12:49:32
4 posts

Guitar


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I just joined this forum and was reading throught this thread. I bought my guitar directly from Prefamac (in Belgium) back in 2001. Paid about $1000 (US) incl shipping for a guitar w/ 3 frames. It is all stainless steel (no plastic base) I am sure it is more expensive now with the exchange rate and all, but maybe worth a shot.Also, in regards to replacement wire, I recommend checking out Grainger. We bought a spool of stainless steel wire for about $50.00. They have a bunch of different thicknesses we ended up buying a slightly thicker and more durable wire than what had come with the guitar. I don't think I have broken a string in like 4-6 months...Good luck.
Tom Polk
@Tom Polk
01/19/09 22:30:48
2 posts

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Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

TCF Sales (aka The Chocolate Fountain) also provides chocolate guitar stainless steel wire, and distributes Design & Realisation products, as well as other popular chocolate equipment in the U.S. and abroad. --DR used to mfg. a chocolate guitar but currently they do not. -- Regards.
Tom Polk
@Tom Polk
01/18/09 15:43:04
2 posts

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Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Yes, the Dedy is a high quality chocolate guitar, and in my opinion the best out there. Save yourself the hassel of dealing with Customs, required bonds, etc. We do this for you and provide product support as well -- plus, offer it at a better price. You can't go wrong! -- For additonal information, see www.tcfsales.com or call toll free: 877-777-6982 or 316.636.4443.
Christine Doerr
@Christine Doerr
01/06/09 15:33:12
24 posts

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I also recently bought a Dedy with four frames directly for the producer and I LOVE it!Corresponded via email. Wired the money to a German bank account. Had to pick it up at the U.S. customs office at the airport. I wasn't expecting that. Found out because the cutter cost was over $500 I SHOULD have gotten a "bond". Not sure what that was about but customs was nice about it and let me take the cutter without a bond (as long as I promised to get one NEXT time). Cost $2500 US ($1680 EUR) in Sept. 2008. It's a big investment but the accuracy and efficiency is immeasurable. Really makes a difference in a professional look. Funny, the pictures I have posted on The Chocolate Life are of truffles I made before I bought the cutter.
John DePaula
@John DePaula
01/02/09 20:22:01
45 posts

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I love the new cutter. It's going to make my work faster and improve precision - can't ask for more than that! The snow definitely impacted my business, too. Had to delay (or even cancel) getting out some last orders but what can you do when it's not even possible to get the car out of the driveway.

But I do love how beautiful it is when it snows.
Sarah Hart
@Sarah Hart
01/01/09 13:32:48
63 posts

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Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Wow, Thanks. Yes, the chefrubber thing nearly gave me a heart attack. I like a lot of their products but agree that they are costly. I will check out D & R. That is more in the price range I was thinking, that is for sure!THanks for the info. Are you having fun with your new cutter? Did you survive the holidays intact? I loved the snow but it did put a bit of a crimp on business at the shop...Happy new year,s
John DePaula
@John DePaula
01/01/09 12:13:10
45 posts

Guitar


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I can't believe the site just ate my reply...First of all, I think that any hobby store e.g. Michaels, will probably carry s/s wire that you could use to fix your guitar.Places that sell guitars, e.g. bakedeco.com, must also sell it but I wasn't able to locate it on their site after a quick search.Chef Rubber's claim that "This wire is better then [sic] what came on your cutter originally" must be true because HOLY COW! 200' for $500! You could probably build another guitar for $500...Check out Design and Realization . Their site is a bit clunky, you can't search and you can't link to a particular page, but select ' Guitar for Chocolate and Candies ' on the left-side navigation bar and scroll down until you see 'Wire for guitar.' US$37.35 for 295' will fill the bill nicely.
updated by @John DePaula: 09/14/15 20:35:32
John DePaula
@John DePaula
01/01/09 11:49:21
45 posts

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Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi Sarah,'Inox' just means 'stainless-steel.' I will check around to see who might have some replacement wire. I'd shop more at Chef Rubber but WOW their prices are super-high...Cheers,J
Sarah Hart
@Sarah Hart
12/31/08 19:55:32
63 posts

Guitar


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

A coupla years ago I got a guitar (the plastic base one) and it is okay. I sure wish I would have read this before and held out for the Dedy! But the one I have works okay, except that several of the strings are broken from early on and the replacement wire bought through places like chefrubber is very expensive. From what I can figure out, it is some kind of stainless steel wire. Can anyone tell me if it is something special, or where I might be able to find such wire? I read the word "Inox wire" related to it, does that mean anything to anyone?
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
12/24/08 09:39:35
1,692 posts

Guitar


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Edward:Please post a photo of your home-made cutting wheel for us to admire!:: Clay
Edward
@Edward
12/24/08 09:21:38
22 posts

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Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I'd really like to get a guitar, as I do 4 slabbed varieities, but for the moment, I've found a cheaper alternative.In some of the kitchens I've worked, I've been spoiled by the Matfer cutting wheels. This is a device consisting of aprox. 30 s/s discs (sharp), threaded on a rod, with spacers between the discs and rolling pin style handles. The price for this was at last checking around $300, and I'm a cheap guy.What I found at the local dollar store was cheap pizza wheels so I bough a dozen and drilled out the rivet, made some 7/8" spacers from 1" plastic pipe, threaded the assembly onto a length of 3/8" threaded redi-rod, and made some handles for it.It works quite well for slabbed ganaches, and while it won't cut through slabbed cast caramel, it does mark them nicely. If I can find more pizza wheels I'll make some more in different sizes....
Antoine
@Antoine
12/20/08 19:57:31
2 posts

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Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I got a double guitar from savy goiseau it's a nice one,very practical versus the single one,the quality is great very solid all metal.
Kerry
@Kerry
12/20/08 11:48:21
288 posts

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This is strange - I noticed Alana saying something similar when she purchased a book from a Canadian store. When I purchase from the US, my credit card charges me the exchange (which is padded a little to their advantage), but there is no added fee like this.
John DePaula
@John DePaula
12/20/08 11:19:34
45 posts

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And then, I noticed a 3% "Foreign Transaction Fee" from Chase. :-(
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
12/03/08 06:42:39
1,692 posts

Guitar


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

One of the challenges that many chocolatiers face is scaling up production. Maybe you started by hand and you're looking to grow but you're really not big enough yet to shell out $3000 or so (including shipping, etc) to purchase a guitar.On another thread I posted a link to a two-part silicon truffle mold. You put the two parts together, pipe in the center (e.g., ganache) scrape off the excess and let harden. Remove the centers and dip/enrobe.The same company offers a set of four molds to make centers in four other shapes. For some people this might be a comparatively inexpensive way to bridge the gap between cutting by hand and purchasing a guitar.
John DePaula
@John DePaula
12/02/08 13:29:02
45 posts

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No, no issues have surfaced so far. They offered me two shipping options:They are 2 box, the delivery charges by Mail are :1) Expedited = 170,60 $ us Delay : 10 to 15 daysOR 2) Express = 247,50 $ us Delay : 5 days (working days)I chose the cheaper option and it came, via USPS - Canada Post, as scheduled.
Steven Lebowitz
@Steven Lebowitz
12/02/08 08:05:37
2 posts

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John DePaula - I seem to remember that you are located in the US. Were there any issues with D&R shipping from Canada?
pattyc
@pattyc
11/30/08 21:09:43
5 posts

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My guitar is also a Dedy and was bought in 2004 from Kerekes for a little under $2,400, with 15 mm, 22.5, and 30 mm arms.
John DePaula
@John DePaula
11/30/08 00:14:54
45 posts

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Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

No, this is my first guitar. Mine has an all metal base but it's surprisingly light.The cutter from D&R arrived pretty much when they said it would: 10-15 days after ordering (I chose the cheaper delivery option). The two boxes arrived at different times but no big deal.
Elaine Hsieh
@Elaine Hsieh
11/29/08 20:24:26
25 posts

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Thank you for the all the helpful tips - do you know who the manufacturer is of your guitar? Is it very heavy?
Elaine Hsieh
@Elaine Hsieh
11/29/08 20:23:07
25 posts

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Thanks - I have been eyeing that one as well - did you have any troubles with the company in terms of how long it took to ship to you? I've ordered framing bars recently and it took about a month to 6 weeks.Also, I've seen your name pop up in another chocolate site - did you use to have a plastic base guitar cutter? If so, any thoughts?
John DePaula
@John DePaula
11/29/08 16:04:10
45 posts

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I just purchased a single Dedy guitar cutter from Design & Realization in Canada. From the pix online, it certainly looked like the Dedy, one that Kerry has recommended for some time. I verified with D&R that it is, in fact, a Dedy and it appears to be of absolutely excellent construction. The frames just arrived in a separate box, so I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it. It's a beauty!
pattyc
@pattyc
11/22/08 21:18:24
5 posts

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My guitar is a single with a metal base and three arms and I absolutely love it, especially considering the alternative of using a knife to cut ganache into perfect squares. I've had it for about four years and the only things I need to replace every once in awhile have been a couple of strings. I wipe the strings and base between each use with a paper towel, and once a week or so I clean it with soap and water. I've found that Dawn works best as it cuts through the fat in the chocolate. I did not buy the stand for it and keep the guitar on a full size sheet pan lined with parchment paper, which makes for easy clean up.
Elaine Hsieh
@Elaine Hsieh
11/13/08 05:04:47
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Thanks, is it the plastic base? Did you purchase the single or double? How long have you had it for and have you had any troubles with it in terms of maintenance or clean-up?
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